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Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Arne Sostack

Arne Sostack — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:54:42 +0000

Som svar til Christian Sousa Queiroz.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42642 Seems like a good place to go. 🙂

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Christian Sousa Queiroz

Christian Sousa Queiroz — Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:21:11 +0000

No, but could me indicate where can I download?

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Arne Sostack

Arne Sostack — Mon, 15 Jan 2018 22:05:09 +0000

Oh. That sucks. Maybe I can get around to making a WinForms version that’ll run on Windows 7 too.

Do you have .NET Framework 4.5 installed? I don’t recall if Windows 7 does that automatically.

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Christian Sousa Queiroz

Christian Sousa Queiroz — Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:50:16 +0000

Yes, but it does not pick up on my Windows 7 computer

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Arne Sostack

Arne Sostack — Sun, 14 Jan 2018 19:11:53 +0000

Som svar til Christian Sousa Queiroz. You don't need to download anything before this. When I say update, I just mean that I've made changes to the code, and here's a new version that you can download.

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Christian Sousa Queiroz

Christian Sousa Queiroz — Sun, 14 Jan 2018 17:56:43 +0000

i’m not getting download the first version to be able to update, but the server does not open.

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Arne Sostack

Arne Sostack — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:08:29 +0000

Som svar til Ash.

I dug around a bit, and finally got it working (Assuming I understand what you’re trying to do) 🙂

It turns out that because I added support for escaping characters (probably quotes, I don’t remember exactly), you have to use double backslashes:

Tokens V a e i Tokens K b h j k l


Rule Start {

  token K

  token V

  token K

  token K

  token V
  rule Modify

}
Rule Modify {

  translate {

    ($V) ($K) => \\1 \\2 \\1

  }

}

StartingRule Start 200

Seems to do what you’re asking for 🙂

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Ash

Ash — Sun, 07 Jan 2018 22:53:29 +0000

Ah, that was a typo – the same thing happens both with the backslash and a forward slash.
“Rule IdentV {
Translate {
($V) ND V => \1 ND \1
}
}”
This is by far the best word generator I’ve come across in terms of customisation. With the conlanging community becoming more and more present online I’m fairly certain there would be interest from others who use and enjoy awkwords or zompist’s gen (which are both very good) but would like to use more complex phonotactics, which I’ve always found quite hard with them. I’m aware someone else has started a solo-project recently, I may ask him if he’d be willing to share information on his work in progress to one of the forums or the subreddit & if he’d like community feedback. I know nothing of programming (yet!), but a program that could operate on the featural level as opposed to on segments without much set-up would be the stuff of dreams (of course, you can do this manually with some time, but many newbies might prefer the ease of access – I may share the text from my phonology file as an example so people can see how I’ve done it when it’s nearer completion, I’ve been trying to generate vocabulary for a phonology that’s ‘halfway between Icelandic, Finnish and Sanskrit’).

I might be getting ahead of myself here, but if it did work, could you set multiple variables? So
“Rule IdentV {
Translate {
($V) ($ND) V => \1 \2 \1
}
}”?
Thanks for taking the time 🙂

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Arne Sostack

Arne Sostack — Sun, 07 Jan 2018 20:41:40 +0000

Som svar til Ash.

Hey Ash,

thanks for taking the time to play with this 🙂

I must admit that I’m quite rusty in regards to how everything works, but my intuition says that it should be a backslash (\1) rather than a forward slash (/1) – just checked the page, and it seems I’m right.

Let me know if that helps 🙂

/Arne

Kommentar til Wordbuilder lives! af Ash

Ash — Sun, 07 Jan 2018 20:12:52 +0000

The translate command doesn’t seem to do all that it says on the wordbuilder page.. I’m not sure if it’s a bug, or a different version.
Given an input like
Rule Constraint {
Translate {
($FV) $BV => /1 /1 (or, a command with only one /1)
}
]
It fails to recognize the $FV as 1, the output gives me ‘1’. Even if it is ($FV) Ö => /1 b, or similar.
I’d be grateful for any help – I’d try fiddling with stuff myself but I don’t know anything about programming. This feature would be a huge help f.ex. for changing allophones to their realization when displaying stuff with X-SAMPA. Of course, most of the changes are pretty minimal and are easily done by hand, but it can get pretty tedious if you’ve generating a large amount, or want to get a feel for a particular phonology.
Thanks!